Wednesday, June 29, 2005
History Repeats
Gilbert: "There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
Goering: "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
In an interview with Gilbert in Goering's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946).
Hermann Wilhelm Goering (12 January 1893 - 15 October 1946) Nazi founder of the Gestapo, Head of the Luftwaffe.
Sounds a bit familiar doesn't it? The denouncing of people against the war as unpatriotic and saying how much danger we are in.
Now first and foremost I will say I was against the war. Not because I am against war or against Bush its just that there was no profit to be had in this war. War should only be for two things. To protect your country's borders/people and for profit. The first one is noble and the second one is dubious I will admit that.
Now if Bush had said," Look, we are going to war because we can't find Osama and want to take your attention away from how miserably we are handling security concerns on the homefront, and also we will go in there and take all the oil for America." That would have been something. Instead they talk about bring democracy like bringing a cake to the office on a birthday. "Who would like a big slice of freedom?"
Before we went to war, I was talking with a guy I used to work with who was in Korea and Vietnam. We agreed there was no way to just get in, get rid of Hussain (which was really the point) and get out. It just isn't done like that. I hate to say it but democracy isn't that big of a concern in that part of the world. Their society has been around for thousands of years and the have had Kings and Pharaohs and Shahs and Sheiks, and Sultans; but no democracy. They like to say they are the cradle of civilization and yet they are barely out of the stone age. And it does piss them off. And it should. But to sound like a Dr.Phil rip off, they should look inside themselves to fix their problems not blame others. But they are human and humans make mistakes, that's fine, just take off the damn explosive belt and chill out.
One side note. If like Italy showed up and said they were going to take out our government because it was corrupt and spreading weapons of mass destruction across the globe,(which less face it is more or less true), I would be one of the first to get an explosive belt and hand it to some kid. Hell I am not blowing myself up--you stupid or something?
I was listening to some Notorious B.I.G today. Biggie Smalls. For those who don't know he was only one of the best rappers to ever hit the mike. His rhymes were stories, like movies with words. Sometimes violent, funny, misogynistic, bragadocious, but always smooth and well done. If you don't like rap that's fair, too each his own. But if you say that it is crap you need to read his lyrics...then try to follow along. Its poetry and its probably not meant for you anyway.
Just for the record I been into rap since I was a kid. I grew up in the projects in New London and knew and was friends with black and white and Puerto Rican--so I am not new to rap music. I go back to the old school, at least '86 or '85. I never rapped or even breakdanced but in JR high I had a pair of red on white Adiddas with checkerboard laces ala Run DMC. Was I frontin? Maybe. I also listen to rock as hard as can be and sitting here within two feet of me I got Guns and Roses, Biggie and the Prodigy. So I know music. I love music. I listen to all kinds of music. So if I say something is good it is and if you don't like my opinion or disagree, what do I care? Its American and opinions are like assholes, most are shitty and stink and aren't well explored. Boing!
Well, I think that's it. I have ranted enough for tonight. I hope you leave a comment and let me know how much you hate me and hey...pass it on to a friend if you liked and don't get any on ya....Laterzzz....
say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."
Goering: "Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."
In an interview with Gilbert in Goering's jail cell during the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials (18 April 1946).
Hermann Wilhelm Goering (12 January 1893 - 15 October 1946) Nazi founder of the Gestapo, Head of the Luftwaffe.
Sounds a bit familiar doesn't it? The denouncing of people against the war as unpatriotic and saying how much danger we are in.
Now first and foremost I will say I was against the war. Not because I am against war or against Bush its just that there was no profit to be had in this war. War should only be for two things. To protect your country's borders/people and for profit. The first one is noble and the second one is dubious I will admit that.
Now if Bush had said," Look, we are going to war because we can't find Osama and want to take your attention away from how miserably we are handling security concerns on the homefront, and also we will go in there and take all the oil for America." That would have been something. Instead they talk about bring democracy like bringing a cake to the office on a birthday. "Who would like a big slice of freedom?"
Before we went to war, I was talking with a guy I used to work with who was in Korea and Vietnam. We agreed there was no way to just get in, get rid of Hussain (which was really the point) and get out. It just isn't done like that. I hate to say it but democracy isn't that big of a concern in that part of the world. Their society has been around for thousands of years and the have had Kings and Pharaohs and Shahs and Sheiks, and Sultans; but no democracy. They like to say they are the cradle of civilization and yet they are barely out of the stone age. And it does piss them off. And it should. But to sound like a Dr.Phil rip off, they should look inside themselves to fix their problems not blame others. But they are human and humans make mistakes, that's fine, just take off the damn explosive belt and chill out.
One side note. If like Italy showed up and said they were going to take out our government because it was corrupt and spreading weapons of mass destruction across the globe,(which less face it is more or less true), I would be one of the first to get an explosive belt and hand it to some kid. Hell I am not blowing myself up--you stupid or something?
I was listening to some Notorious B.I.G today. Biggie Smalls. For those who don't know he was only one of the best rappers to ever hit the mike. His rhymes were stories, like movies with words. Sometimes violent, funny, misogynistic, bragadocious, but always smooth and well done. If you don't like rap that's fair, too each his own. But if you say that it is crap you need to read his lyrics...then try to follow along. Its poetry and its probably not meant for you anyway.
Just for the record I been into rap since I was a kid. I grew up in the projects in New London and knew and was friends with black and white and Puerto Rican--so I am not new to rap music. I go back to the old school, at least '86 or '85. I never rapped or even breakdanced but in JR high I had a pair of red on white Adiddas with checkerboard laces ala Run DMC. Was I frontin? Maybe. I also listen to rock as hard as can be and sitting here within two feet of me I got Guns and Roses, Biggie and the Prodigy. So I know music. I love music. I listen to all kinds of music. So if I say something is good it is and if you don't like my opinion or disagree, what do I care? Its American and opinions are like assholes, most are shitty and stink and aren't well explored. Boing!
Well, I think that's it. I have ranted enough for tonight. I hope you leave a comment and let me know how much you hate me and hey...pass it on to a friend if you liked and don't get any on ya....Laterzzz....
// posted by Biff Manly @ 8:06 PM 
